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"Deliberate play" explained

9/26/2014

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The attacker is challenging the opponents for the ball, but before that the defender makes a deliberate play. When a defender makes a deliberate play "to save a goal from being scored" then it must be considered as a deliberate save and the attacker receiving the ball must still be called offside.
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Emil
10/2/2014 04:24:29 am

Is this solution the official UEFA solution?
I can't find a section on your blog presenting the guidelines for "deliberate save", so I will put forth my own. A deliberate save should be understood, in my opinion, as taking place when a shot is fired on goal. I assume you refer back to The Third Team's definition of "deliberate save" (http://footballrefereeing.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/what-except-from-deliberate-save-means.html#.VC2XHvl5PJY), which does assimilate a "deliberate save" to a goalkeeper's save (although any player may make one). Now, a goalkeeper blocks shots. This, here, is not a "shot" as the defender moves towards the ball, and not the opposite. To me, therefore, it is a "deliberate play", and not a "deliberate save", and therefore no offside.

Now, of course, if you tell me that this is an official interpretation by UEFA/FIFA (or an instructor), I will accept the official interpretation.

I'd love to hear what you think!

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Offside Explained
10/2/2014 05:27:09 am

Thank You for your question Emil!

1. http://www.law-11.com/deliberate-save

2. Amendment to Interpretation / Guidelines Laws of the Game 2013-2014 -
http://www.law-11.com/uploads/2/7/9/0/27904083/law_11_-_offside._amendment_to_interpretation_guidelines.pdf

Page 8: Deliberate save
Is it the same for a player?
Deliberate save: made by any player
save means “to save a goal from being scored”

3. UEFA has not given any official example videos of situations like this. The guideline has to be interpreted. The OE explanation is given by the interpretation of several UEFA FIFA assistant referees.

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Emil
10/2/2014 09:25:06 am

Thank you for this. For me, it is still problematic, but I now think you're right.

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RR
10/2/2014 02:46:00 pm

Could you please explain whether the goal scored by Nigeria in the 2014 FIFA Women's World Cup final was correctly or not disallowed for offside?

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Offside Explained
10/2/2014 04:46:49 pm

1. This video is in our archive and will be published on the website one day. As for now we can say that as there is no clear video replay of whether the ball crossed the line before being touched then there can be no clear answer.

It seems though that the ball had crossed the goal line. The assistant raised the flag a bit too early - she should have waited for the ball to cross the line or to be touched.


2. The most interesting part of this video is when you try to use the 2014 UEFA interpretation to explain the situation - is this kind of an attempt to play the ball an offside offence?

According to the interpretation of the Laws from 2013 it could be understood that the attacker had to touch the ball, challenge the opponent physically or be in the line of vision.

The 2014 guidelines say -
Interfering with play does not only mean playing or touching the ball, but can also include attempting to play the ball **
The attacker who clearly attempts to play the ball and is considered to be interfering with play ("clearly" means that the ball must be really very close).

But it is not specified if offside should be called always when an attacker attempts to play the ball (which is really very close) or only when he is impeding an opponent when doing so.


IN CONCLUSION - using common sense and thinking about what football would want then it seems unfair to call such an attempt to play the ball an offside. There is no impeding an opponent and if the ball would cross the goal line before being touched then a goal seems fair.

BUT it is not certain as there is no clear guidelines for using the guidelines :)

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Offside Explained
10/2/2014 05:03:58 pm

The link also:
http://youtu.be/QI59qR1u49U?t=1m30s

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RR
10/6/2014 02:27:29 pm

It was a very important decision, since the U-20 World Cup winner was decided!!! What was FIFA's official position: goal or offside?




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